http://www.ted.com Volunteer firefighter Mark Bezos tells a story of an act of heroism that didn't go quite as expected -- but that taught him a big lesson: Don't wait to be a hero.
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I was recently fortunate enough to become a full-time firefighter. I switched over from being a police officer and I've got to say, this is by far more demanding physically and mentally (just in my opinion). Anyone that is willing to do this job for free and just for the love of the job has nothing but admiration and respect from me. You guys are awesome so don't let anyone bad mouth you.
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You just nailed it mate .... love you brother .... ... I want to be in your time .... Goid bless you ....Be the one who runs into the flames , Not the other way around. Join your local
fire department and help your community.
myroom isverydirty so bizarre. I cleaned up my local park a few times and other areas nearby. I spoke to the drunks and youth as they told me somebody is paid to do that. Now they hardly drop any litter.
Sorry brother, you are misinformed.... Google any NFPA site on volunteer firefighter injuries/deaths... You are correct that in North America, volunteers outnumber professional firefighters nearly 4:1, but those statistics are applied exponentially, not on an even basis.
The main reason vollies get hurt more, and cause more accidents and injuries responding to calls is lack of training and/or experience period... On a national average, volunteers are only required to train about 5% of the hours than that required of most career departments. Additionally, there is little if any initial or ongoing physical requirements for volunteers. The national average amount of training hours required for a volunteer to receive certification in North America is just about 110 hours. Many vollie departments only require about 10 hours per month maintenance training after that. Some don't train 10 hour per year...
In my home state of Florida, the minimum for a processional firefighter is 398 hours. ... That doesn't even begin to account for maintenance of skill training which, in my department, we are required to complete 1,000 hours per member annually. This doesn't even begin to account for thousands of on-the-job training hours and non-required training that most members participate in at a rate of 100 hours annually. Don't even get me started on the differences in physical fitness....
Like I said, it's not about hating on vollies... It's about reality and public safety.
firehuntfish The whole 50-75% thing isn’t a lack of training, it has to do with the fact that the fire service in the US is comprised of 70% volunteer departments. Those statistics are not too shabby when you realize that paid guys will then make up the latter 25-50% of injuries. All your statistics did was prove that career and volunteers all pretty much get hurt on an equal level based on the percentages of paid vs volunteers.
Volunteer firefighters are not traditionally compensated, while career professional firefighters are compensated by the city or county they serve for their service. Volunteers have their hearts in the right place, but unfortunately, they are a bigger danger than a help in most circumstances. Volunteer firefighters, by definition, are not held to the same training or physical fitness standards as are professional firefighters. This lack of training equates that on an annual average, a volunteer is 50-75% more likely to be injured or killed on an emergency scene compared to a professional firefighter. This makes then not only a safety liability to themselves, but to the folks they are trying to help.
Many rural cities, towns, and counties in North America only have a volunteer fire service, mostly due to the lack of tax revenue needed to sufficiently pay for and maintain a professional fire department. That is sad for many reasons and especially for the reality of the safety issues mentioned. There are many that make the argument that a volunteer who is willing to show up and do the job for nothing is better than no service whatsoever... I would agree to a point as long as those volunteers who respond would recognize their limitations, and not place themselves or the public in unnecessary danger even though they have the best intentions.
I realize that all the volunteers reading this will disagree, but he facts and statistics are undeniable. If the standards were raised, I would have a different opinion, but if the standards were indeed different, the vast majority of volunteers would not have the time or the money required for the proper amount of training necessary to protect themselves and the public.
Anik Sharma Volunteer firefighters have full day jobs and/or are students. They are firefighters in their free time and train in their free time. They do not get paid and do not receive benefits (some departments do give benefits, but most don’t). Non- volunteer are known as “career” firefighters are paid a salary and that is what they do as a job.
Just a question here. Last night in my town there was a snowmobile on fire in a yard. The sled was about 15 feet from the house. The fire dept is about 1500 feet down the road from the fire. Across the street from the fire lived a volunteer ff for the town. He ran from his house to the yard and started to shovel snow on the fully involved sled. I asked if it would be better if he went and got a firetruck because the sled was so close to the house. He said no because it has a full tank of fuel. As he was throwing snow on the sled the flames grew and the fire was being pushed towards the gas tank on the sled. Now about 3 more volunteers came with their personal vehicles and started doing the same. The fire whistle was blowing off now for a good 6 or 7 minutes with now about half dozen ff's there. No firetucks yet just their own cars all shoveling snow on this fully involved sled. Keep in mind it was very very hot and the sled could have exploded at any time. Now about 9 minutes have past and a fire truck finally rolls up from down the street with two guys in it. I feel that if these said ff's that came to the fire in their own cars went to the firehouse first and got the right equipment I think it would have been less likely to catch the house on fire and even worse killed about a dozen people who all had to be 5 feet from the sled because they wanted the birds eye view. My question is, aren't volunteers supposed to respond to the station upon receiving the initial call? I can see them pulling up to the scene in their own cars after the trucks have gotten to the scene. I was also wondering if the trucks can roll out with only one or two guys? Its a small dept but fire is fire. I was thinking of joining this dept but after last night and seen how a house was almost lost and possibly lives because of some major major mistakes I feel I want to join in the next town. I am all for volunteers but the guys that got there last night and acted the way they did left a very bad taste in my mouth.
I hate to say this but I have not been able to escape this perception. Most people think professional fire fighters are better than volunteers. They are not. They are not even more experienced. Don't ask them though. I have several really good friends that are professional. They are good. I admire them. But I have many friends who are volunteers that can put out a fire as well as anyone in the world. Fire fighting is fire fighting and being part time is not a detriment.
+Panzer Commander Unless it's massive acreage burning then there isn't much to know about bush fires. get a few brush trucks tanker truck shuttle water set up dump tanks. That's the general gist of it all and this is from someone who works in a city. Again by rule volunteers do not offer the same level of protection as full time fire dept.
PC, So what's your point? First of all, forestry/wildland firefighting is a specialty and completely different animal that doesn't compare to the majority of the work performed by municipal firefighter/paramedics... Also, most forestry ff's are, in fact, paid specialists even though they may not be full-time... Do not confuse part-time with volunteer....
Secondly, do not misunderstand that I do not have anything against the concept of folks willing to volunteer to protect their communities. My problem is from the aspect of safety pure and simple...The statistical liabilities created from the volunteer fire service cannot be ignored. Career firefighters simply have the logistics and financial resources in place to be able to provide the proper training and experience necessary to operate in a much safer manner in terms of their own safety as well of those they hope to serve. Even with the thousands of hours per year our department trains on top of a 18-call per shift average, it is still an inherently dangerous job... There are certain situations that you simply cannot train for, and that is when experience kicks in.
The "volunteer firefighter"' is a noble concept, but no more practical or safe than someone aspiring to be a volunteer navy seal or volunteer astronaut... It sure sounds cool, but it is obviously both dangerous and impractical to be a realistic notion.
clayton white I know what you are talking about. I have been a volunteer firefighter EMT for sixteen years. My kid brother joined earlier in December and we had a chimney fire it took a turn for the worse. Him and two of my boyhood friends got hurt. My brother is still in the hospital but my two friends are out and on the path to recovery.
Bud I’m a volunteer firefighter/ EMT and I love what I do. We don’t do it to put on a show. If we did we would bring music and dance around for you guys too. Every year about 80-100 FF are killed because the job can be very dangerous. The fire could all of a sudden take a turn for the worse and trap you in there and you have no way out and the crew has no way to get to you. The roof could collapse on you and crush you or you fall through the roof trying to ventilate the house. So what about Ambulance crews? Are they over rated? If you were to get shot and in severe pain wouldn’t you want to have them stop the bleeding and race you to the hospital so you can live to see another day? Learn to appreciate people in Emergency services because they all risk there lives to help save life’s and property. Just learn to appreciate everything in life because it can be taken away from you in the blink of an eye! And like he said don’t wait to make a difference. I’m only 18 and I’m making a difference in everyone’s lives.
I spent 33+ years in the Fire Service, I can only remember one time that someone on our Department went to the hospital for burns and they took care of them in the ER. When you have a Department of over 750 suppression personnel and 70 Fire Stations, that is a pretty decent indicator that your people are well trained.
Sounds like everyone is lacking training in your Department with everyone spending time in the burn unit as you stated.
idmtfirefighter1 Damn right my wife and friends are all volunteer firefighters EMTs. Unfortunately in all the years been with the department we all have spent time in the burn unit at least once or get treated for smoke inhalation.
I started as a volunteer ff that had a paid dept that managed it. I discovered that I liked helping people. it was the best choice ever. Be a Helper. People remember that years later and thank you for that.
There are 1.1 million firefighters in the United States. And 70% of them are Volunteer Firefighters. We are the backbone of the emergency response system and we do it out of love for our communities and families, not for money. It is the truest form of altruism: serving others and not expecting or asking for anything in return. You could learn a lot from someone who is willing to do that. So take notes on this speech from this Volunteer Firefighter and learn something.
We have auxiliary fire ladies who actually go to mcdonalds and get us food for our department and whoever came out on mutual aid, they make sure we have hot coco, water and they change our air paks, they're usually wives or girlfriends though, they just support us while we work
Lol and don't forget the other "best" job on-scene...it's called "REHAB". And it's funny, but everytime we have a structure fire, or anything that requires a REHAB station, a female ff gets assigned that detail !! Odd. Or chance. Or on purpose. Call it what you want. It's required, and I just love when she pours cold water (summertime) down my face, back, or head. And I also appreciate her changing my bottle. Funny, all so mother-like, well not going into the structure, yet I have more than enough strength, yet coming out, I can't raise a Dixie cup of water ! Peace.
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Even just sharing kind words is a way to help people every day. Hold the door open for someone, smile, say hello, good morning/afternoon/etc., listen to people. Those are just a few things you can do every day and brighten other's days as well as your own. It actually feels good to help people and be nice.
1) A volunteer firefighter in Missouri who was responding to an emergency in his personal vehicle with lights and siren on, has been charged with reckless driving.
2) Volunteer firefighter Matt Ousley was ticketed by the Holt Summit Police for reckless driving when responding to a fire call.
3) A volunteer firefighter from Portage, Ohio has been sentenced to 9 months in prison for causing an accident in 2010 that killed a 24 year old man and seriously ...
4) ALAN WILSON ATIORNEY GENERAL The ... been complaints that some volunteer firemen are driving their private vehicles in a ... consequences of his reckless …
5) S.D. Supreme Court hears case of volunteer firefighter speeding, crashing en route to call Five justices will determine if the firefighter was reckless for doing ...
6) Reckless Firefighters ... I see many volunteer firefighters driving like this around ... The reckless firefighter today was responding to an accident in ...
7) Ralph Arnone, 52, of Hillside ... was charged with breach of peace and reckless driving. ... Southport volunteer firefighter suspended after arrest for impersonating cop
I have been an ACCIDENT FREE driver for over forty years. The ONLY time I was almost killed was by a slack jaw, volunteer clown who was;
2) Passing at an intersection
3) Traveling in the wrong lane
Zz Greg im a volunteer myself. I will openly admit that I was speeding the last two times I drove to the station (the first time doing 120kph in an 80/60/70 zone) HOWEVER
I do not drive recklessly. I watch my surroundings and only go as fast as the conditions allow (in the case of last monday the road ahead of me was clear and it's a long straight)
We have a saying here in Germany with voluntary departments. It's "ankommen nicht umkommen" it roughly translates to "getting there not getting killed"
Speeding on its own isn't all that bad as long as you don't forget the other ppl around yoh
Not gonna lie, I know some volunteers who drive like crap when they get to the firehouse, but most of the guys I know are good drivers, and if they find out that you drove like that at my department, they take away your blue light and put you on leave for a little while
What was this trying to prove, like actually what was the point of this, because you had one near miss because a volunteer was responding to a call doesn’t mean there all bad. Now think about this, what if you were the one trapped on the 3rd floor, or has collapsed and your heart has stopped beating, you would want them to risk there lives to save you right? So why is it no different from anyone else, they throw on 50lbs of gear and run into a 10 tons of burning mass that can reach over 1000 degrees Fahrenheit, they risk getting serious illness to provide proper treatment to someone who has diseases like hiv/aids and others, and what do they get, well the volunteers get nothing, small town on-calls get only a couple hundred, part times not much more, and im pretty sure the full time city firefighters only make 500 a week. What more can you ask for?
Most of us speed but know our limits and don't really go that fast. We use the lights so we can go a bit faster and pass anyone driving too slow. Lights are a must most of the time otherwise it can cause your 5-minute trip to become 10 minutes.
Does his 100mph clown deserve any respect? This VFD killer placed absolutely NO value on the life or safety of motorists, much like the snuff chewing punk who almost killed me.
"Firefighter Timothy Johnson of the Portage Fire District, was responding to a mutual aid structure fire on July 16, 2010 when his personally owned vehicle collided with a car driven by Olivia Duty. Duty’s boyfriend, Ian Huffman, 24, was killed in the crash. Police estimated Johnson’s speed at between 96-98 miles per hour just before the collision.
Johnson was charged with aggravated vehicular homicide and aggravated vehicular assault, and ended up pleading guilty to one count negligent vehicular homicide and attempted negligent homicide. He was sentenced to 9 months in prison and his driver’s license was suspended for three years.
Parents of Ian Huffman, John and Maureen Huffman, and Olivia Duty, filed the wrongful-death and personal-injury lawsuit against Johnson and the Portage Fire District. It was settled for $1.57 million last fall"
NINE MONTHS !!
As a volunteer firefighter myself, trust me when I say that next time you need us, remember your comment. We're the ones who run in when you are running out and we deserve nothing but respect. I myself have and will never do this for pay. Saving a life, priceless. Saving someone's home from burning to the ground and leaving that family with nothing, priceless. Have some respect for my brothers and sister who save yours and your families lives.
very true.. as a member of the Marion VOLENTEER Fire dept, I volenteer to serve my community & to keep peopke safe, ive been to numerous car wrecks, grass fires medical calls etc.. and even of we call for mutual aid, there all great volenteers as well, unfortunately the state cannot fund us, which I do not have a problem with, but whay makes me really upset, is that people ha e the nerve to bad mouth us cause were volenteers, honestly, the training is the same.. the equipment is the same, the RISK are definitely the same.. only difference is one gets a paycheck, and one doesn't, so people shouldn't frown apon volenteers, cause in every state they are there, and they will still be as efficient as any paid dept.
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One year ago today I watched this video. I got me thinking, even though I'm only 15 (14 at the time) I can make a change. I applied at my local volunteer fire department 2 weeks later. I have never regretted doing so. From me and my family (birth and brotherhood) thank you Mark Bezos for making life-long friendships and a future career clear and in reach for me. Keep up the work brother!
MrMarijuanaKills, you are seriously still trolling firefighter videos?! Lmao. I got into with this guy like 6 months ago, I cant believe youre still that jealous of the life of a firefighter. hahaha. You poor guy, you're worse off than I thought
Nice story good lesson. I'm sorry but I've done it for 32 years. Most of the time the public is waiting for you to screw up and point fingers. Politicians just wanna vote and ride your coat tails. I've never saved a live person but found plenty of dead ones, big deal they're dead. I hate it when people refer to us as heroes.
yeah cause a 5 hour fire is a short time... your an idiot and a loser dont call the medics when your stupid ass fall off a roof idk why you keep bringing up heroic this day and age they are no heros unless your a celebrity or have a lot of money and trust me ive done roofing its not that fucking hard asshole
the hose line weighs almost 300 pounds your dragging threw a building you cant see shit and you have to limit how many times your breath cause you have 15 minutes of air in high temps in buildings you've never been in before a little different then your garden hose unless your garden has 125 pounds of nozzle reaction
my dad has been a volunteer firefighter for 35 years and still going and hes a carpenter Im also a volunteer and worked construction. Now I work part time as a firefighter and have another full time job so I know all about it!!!! we dont sit around all day we train, do building inspections, work around the fire house I'm not understanding why you hate firefighters so much so we take pride in what we do big deal try wearing 75 pounds of gear then a 20 pound tool then you have the hose line
I'm not saying you aren't smart I don't know you shoot you could probably work for NASA for all I know. But for you to pass judgement on what we do and what we love our "dead end job" isn't right but if you think you can handle it give it a shot. and by the way ask any firefighter if they think they are a hero 9 out of 10 will say no. Yes its a ball busting job we don't make millions but I will never give up getting on that engine and responding to calls its a passion so say what you want IDC!
you make laugh. I like how uneducated you are. sounds like to me someone couldn't pass the academy it's OK not everyone can handle it. but I'm sure your mom appreciates that you still live her and mooch of her while you sit on the couch all day
A lot of the times, volunteer fire departments receive little, to no money at all. A lot of the money they take in is from fish fries or bake sales. But I'd much rather my money go to fire than police. We can police our own neighborhoods, but we need firefighters to put out fires, pull us from wrecked cars and arrive to medical calls.
You pay my wages? Who said I get paid? Way to lump all firefighters together.
I'm sure you'd tell each one of them to their face. A coward's tool behind a keyboard and computer screen to talk about civil servants this way. I hope it makes you sleep better at night.
not the SAR members? not paramedics? not cops not full time firefighters? oh cus they get paid? so if some fulltime firefighter or cop saved your life or the life of someone you know. (as THEY WILL) you'd just respond with a "so? whats the big deal that's just your job you just did that so you get a paycheck" im pretty sure 100% of the world would punch you in the nuts for that.
Im a volunteer firefighter. and in no way I put myself above a fulltime fighter.
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