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Why museums are returning cultural treasures | Chip Colwell

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Archaeologist and curator Chip Colwell collects artifacts for his museum, but he also returns them to where they came from. In a thought-provoking talk, he shares how some museums are confronting their legacies of stealing spiritual objects and pillaging ancient graves -- and how they're bridging divides with communities who are demanding the return of their cultural treasures. Check out more TED Talks: http://www.ted.com The TED Talks channel features the best talks and performances from the TED Conference, where the world's leading thinkers and doers give the talk of their lives in 18 minutes (or less). Look for talks on Technology, Entertainment and Design -- plus science, business, global issues, the arts and more. Follow TED on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/TEDTalks Like TED on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TED Subscribe to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/TED
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Keiwan Dittia (3 months ago)
Indiana Jones said 'that belongs in a muesum'. But he did not specify which muesum.
ZiemniakPospolity (4 months ago)
I see here mostly comments about treasures of an african country being captured and secured by a civilised european country. But about the WWII? There are still a lot of e.g. Polish treasures you can find in Germany. What about this stuff?
Pj Lewis (5 months ago)
If only more persons understand what this enlightened individual knows & cares about.
Dr Grad (5 months ago)
Turkce ceviri icin tesekkurler..
Nietzsche's Moustache (5 months ago)
If the Europeans hadn't collected the cultural treasures of the Middle East, they would have been destroyed by religious barbarians.
Leba Babel (6 months ago)
Why can't the natives willing to donate wood carving solely for education purposes? or make a wood carving to trade for the old one?
Unjyn Park (6 months ago)
Thank you so much. I really appreciate how you express and face the sorrow of many peoples hidden behind those wonderful 'objects' in museums. Absolutely, all of them must be returned to the places where they originally come from. If the descendants of the creators of those works decide to stop to treat them as the object of worship and display them in a museum, it is their choice.
Nguyen Chanh (6 months ago)
Or, well, they can always make new ones.
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Abigail Nelson (6 months ago)
Lol I random chose this ted talk and I’m from tucson
Rodrigo Canalli (6 months ago)
Egypt: thousands of ancient objects plundered from major Museums in Cairo during political upheaval; Brazil: two major museus burnt on fire, due to deficient maintenance. Among the items destroyed forever, there was the oldest human fossil from Americas; Afghanistan: Ancient Buda statues bombed by taliban extremists as part of a State policy while they were ruling the Country; Iraq: thousands of artifacts looted from museums; Siria: human cultural heritage being destroyed at an incalculable rate; Go on, SJW! If you want to have all these objects destroyed, why dont just set a large balefire and throw them all inside. It's cheaper than returning them, and the results are the same!
Martin Kaufmann (6 months ago)
The Mandela lie returns and returns..
John Simpson (6 months ago)
Chip, you said you have a one-million year old spear point. Sorry to tell you, according to new science, the earth is only about 6-7,000 years old.
Vim LA (6 months ago)
The British , Iranian & Arabic invaders owe India billions due the amount of jewels , gemstones and gold they stole from the Indian people. However, those cultures are very arrogant and see nothing wrong in their sins. Most likely, nothing will happen. Iran and Saudi are [email protected] countries. The UK is now ok with India. Let whoever has the kohinor diamond keep it and obtain its bad karma. (India has many faults, not refuting that. Ethiopia is cleaner than India ).
Re Up (2 months ago)
Arabic invaders in India? Are you talking about the northwestern corner of Pakistan, or just being a moron? Because Arabs nor Iranians invaded modern Indian borders. The only people who invaded India are some Pashto and Turkic groups (neither of which came from Iran proper). And before them the Indo-Aryans did the same and who now makeup the majority of India. The Indo-Aryans (North Indians) migrated from Central Asia and into North India. And now you _might_ repeat some nationalist revisionist bullshit about "Aryan migration theory is a myth!" but outside of India, in every historical and scientific journal and consensus, the Aryan migration is accepted as fact. Iranic and Indic people both originate in Central Asia and migrated south. Similarly, the Turkic people migrated from North Asia into Central Asia and took their place. In Europe, the Germans and Celts migrated west and south, and the Slavs migrated east. In Africa, the Bantus migrated south. Migration has happened all over the World, so no point denying it in India.
Acrimonious Dragon (6 months ago)
Hey lets return the stuff from the museum so it can end up in private collections or worse.
조진우 (6 months ago)
I just simply want to say to researchers whoever scientists or archaeologists. if you want study something with human remains, dig your mom and dad's tomb and do what you like with that. I don't care what he or she do with their remains of their ancestors. But don't do with those of other ones' ancestors. It's literally jackass's work.
Michael ! (6 months ago)
1:28 - coincidence theyre all missing their heads? This lie couldnt stand the test of time had their "black" features not have been destroyed. "Egypt was the place where Alexander the Great went. He was in shock to see moutains w black faces (spinx) So they shot off the nose to impose what basically still goes on today you see?" -Nas
ynderulets tyalikanky (6 months ago)
> spiritual
Alicia Ruiz (4 months ago)
My teacher is from a very tight nit amd resilient indigenous community from the highlands of oaxaca. She said her town’s codex is somewhere in a museum in the netherlands! Its so messed up what use do random white academics with it and why do they deserve this so much instead of the communities whose ancient wisdom it is
RC CGC (6 months ago)
Yep USA is not the only place they have dug up indigenous remains for study.
ILeftYouDead (6 months ago)
Only reason I'm here is bc thumbnail is flipping me off
Hannah Choi (6 months ago)
Yeah Japan.
dev0n james (6 months ago)
critical theory in museums.
Miguel Guerrero (6 months ago)
At 10:40, that place looks strangely similar to the vault at Museo Larco in Lima, Peru. Those vases look more Mochica than Zunni. I smell something weird here.
DURMUŞ BAYSAL (6 months ago)
God of earth, god of thunder, God is three. None of this is true. The truth is just that. "Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." (The Noble Quran. Surah Al Iklhas. Verse 1-4) Say, "It is only revealed to me that your god is but one God; so will you be Muslims [in submission to Him]?" (The Noble Quran. Surah Al Anbya. Verse 108) And [Abraham] said, "You have only taken, other than Allah, idols as [a bond of] affection among you in worldly life. Then on the Day of Resurrection you will deny one another and curse one another, and your refuge will be the Fire, and you will not have any helpers." (The Noble Quran. Surah Al Ankabut. Verse 25) And how many a city have We destroyed that was insolent in its [way of] living, and those are their dwellings which have not been inhabited after them except briefly. And it is We who were the inheritors. (The Noble Quran. Surah Al Qasas. Verse 58) Listen to the voice of the Noble Quran. Maybe your life will be changed If God allows. French : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVY8pwx9B74 English: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omh4oG8T_Fw German: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXWTxB6oS6I
Jan-pieter Rot (6 months ago)
This speech is part of a bigger discussion about how we as the inheritors of the colonial era should be reminded about our past. We should change how we see and approach musea. So often it is about objects of great wealth and not about idea's or viewpoints unique to the past or a culture. A museum could make the world look smaller instead of showing off our wealth and captured treasure's.
Shankar Sivarajan (6 months ago)
6:41 That has an easy answer: you know the old saying about the only good Indians?
Bruno Borgatti (6 months ago)
France give Italy La Gioconda back then, it belongs to us, you stole it
VeeTeeF (6 months ago)
I don't see why these things can't just be scanned and returned?
왜그래 (6 months ago)
Do not forget that more than 80 percent of what we see in the French and American museums and admire is a precious historical treasure of a country other than their own. The fact that the cultural assets obtained by looting other countries in the past are packed as if they were cultural properties and that they are seen by others show that they are inferior to their own poor cultural properties ,. I think that human cultural assets are real values ​​when they are in the birth place of the cultural assets. The value of a cultural property is not in the museum that holds it, but in the place where the cultural assets were born. It is only the authenticity of the value .
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
White museums are for preserving white history only. Send the rest of the artifacts back where they came from.
So where is the cultural dialogue ? Where is the interest for other civilizations ? Where is the intellectual curiosity that can fuel arts and science ?
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
Things like the Native Americans I understand, but the Egyptian artifacts are from an ancient civilization who's culture no longer exists. It's from so long ago that that you have whites, blacks and middle eastern all arguing over who the true descendants are.
Abhi Band (6 months ago)
Atleast return those Wooden Sticks, where you were using on Bullock Cart..
TheMrCitizen1 (6 months ago)
My countries(Bosnia and Herzegovina) birth certificate is in Russia and as is, it's not coming back. It's nice to hear that someone understands what history can mean for someone. (The document is called The charter of Ban Kulin if you're interested )
BANELE MSIMANGO (6 months ago)
Why take what's not yours in the first place... huh Americans?
Okayish Guy (6 months ago)
So India will get back The Kohinoor or No? 🖕Brits
gumo gumo no pistol (6 months ago)
British stole burmese Ruby , should return it too.
Optical Clarity (6 months ago)
"Cultural Treasures" What a joke. They are treasures because they've been preserved... where they came from they'd have been discarded or destroyed long ago.
TheSaltyRainbow (6 months ago)
Yea, then let radicals destroy them down the line.
ClockworkAvatar (6 months ago)
yeah, no these things belong in a museum.
panddda boi (6 months ago)
Nice video against Multiculturalism here, far right people would use this to further their racist agenda.
Teresa White (6 months ago)
This is great news.
Justin Tyler Lee (6 months ago)
It's my culture to steal from other cultures. Can I have my stuff back?
Kay Hay (6 months ago)
Africa ain't getting nothing back from those Europeans.
Cole Farwell (6 months ago)
Do you know where Egypt is?
eier diebs (6 months ago)
I disagree with returning objects, they are part of all human history and should be treated as such, that means keeping them in good condition and preserving them for generations to come. That is best in western museums with stable political, social and economic conditions.
louislungbubble (4 months ago)
+Mariano Garcia Rodriguezactually i do not suggest all are unfit by any means , but I am saying a vast number, due to lack of funds , corruption , and instability cant not meet the responsibility . priceless treasures have already been lost in the middle east in war and deliberate cultural vandalism. you saw the tragedy in Brazil a few months ago, people rioted after wards ,blaming the government for lack of funding and neglect, even the most basic requirements to put out the fire were not working. no one country should be the sole custodian of the worlds cultural heritage and countries who have the best means should take shared responsibility. I understand fully the emotional aspect of wanting things back "where they belong" but I think there is far more at stake and too much to loose if logic clear thinking is not applied.
Mariano Garcia Rodriguez (4 months ago)
+louislungbubble are you saying that museums other than these are unfit to keep their own heritage? The National Anthripology Museum in Mexico City owes nothing in knowledge and care from museums in Europe that "keep" 🙄 pieces ilegaly expatrieted years ago.
louislungbubble (4 months ago)
+Mariano Garcia Rodriguez you know the meaning of my analogy but ok we will play it your way , yes I would put it in the bank , I would place it in a special needs trust where by the financial assets of a person who is incapable of managing the assets himself is protected.
Mariano Garcia Rodriguez (4 months ago)
+louislungbubble would you keep that money in any bank...if it didnt belong to you?
louislungbubble (4 months ago)
+Mariano Garcia Rodriguez not really .its a logical approach , I hate banks but I still keep my money there and not in a shoe box under my bed.
Herman Spaerman (6 months ago)
i guess we better wait until ISIS takes control of everything , all artifacts will be smashed to bits , problem solved.
Hiloha'homa (6 months ago)
Those sacred objects were more often than not brazenly STOLEN, not bargained for or they got the village drunk to steal them and deliver them and these white grave robbers knew full well that they were stealing them with one hand as they threw the Judeo-Christian doctrines at our people with the other hand. A useless theology not even adhered to by the proselytizers of that false doctrine.
Merlin-Hans Hiiekivi (6 months ago)
some objects are safer on museum than in some countries
Stephen Howell (6 months ago)
...... .......Is it Is it cause it’s the right thing to do?
Woodchip (6 months ago)
So they can be lost forever, like the fires in Brazil :)
TheHoplologist (6 months ago)
Amanda Anderson (6 months ago)
The reasons they are in museums is so they don't get stolen, lost, or destroyed throughout time so that history can be preserved. Without museums we wouldn't have much historical context because these items would have been looted by thieves, destroyed by warring factions or religions, or buried never to be found again.
Amanda Anderson (5 months ago)
+Chi Chiu There aren't any "white countries" if you havent noticed. But developed 1st world countries take care of the artifacts better than 3rd world countries that are known to destroy, sell, or hoard the history attached to the artifact. Are you assuming every country should be insulated and its cultural historical information approved only for those who live there? Are you saying we should all go back to knowing nothing? Hmmmmmm
Chi Chiu (5 months ago)
+Amanda Anderson what about other countries hmm or you think only white countries can protect artifacts and others cant
Amanda Anderson (5 months ago)
+Chi Chiu oh you mean the same countries that destroy their artifacts or sell them on the black market like Egypt for example. Preserving history for all to see is just suuuuuuch a bad idea. Sure totally ignorant, uh huh, ok.
Chi Chiu (5 months ago)
just return them back to their own country already u ignorant
Amanda Anderson (6 months ago)
+maidden Well then we better seal up those pharaohs and send all the paintings back and gather all the literature so as never to be seen or known of again. That way our collective knowledge of the past can diminish so much that origins of art, literature, science, math, civilization, religion, and people all together can disappear. Cuz mah virtue reasons.
Alpha Strength (6 months ago)
Stil can't understand what the photo in the thumbnail is
Nick (6 months ago)
A stick with a carved face on it and a bunch of, I assume, tribal artifacts nailed on it at the bottom.
DeadEndFrog (6 months ago)
Conservatives in one country fighting conservatives in another. While im sure they both imagine some other ideology being at fault here. Talk about culture of victimhood. It seems like the culturely sensitive people are just trying to bridge the gap rather then taking a big part in the battle.
jllemin4 (6 months ago)
When will the Smithsonian give back the hundreds of giant skeletons found littering America? Never.
Xeno Phon (6 months ago)
Because they are stolen property? Why does this need an entire video on it, everyone knows this.
personkid21 (6 months ago)
Got an idea. How about non whites randomly seek white households, churches, establishments, etc. And kill to loot and steal any treasure found. Then set these treasures up in THEIR homes, buildings, etc. And establish these as new museums. Using the logic of whites(many commenters here) this would be completely acceptable.(their goods will be kept 'safe'). These whites would.never want to be revealed a hypocrites(many will agree with this).
Matthew Bell (6 months ago)
personkid21 what was acceptable 100 years ago, is not accepted now
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
_"How about non whites randomly seek white households, churches, establishments, etc. And kill to loot and steal any treasure found"_ They literally already do! 😂👌
TheSaltyRainbow (6 months ago)
Oh boi, I hope you are trolling. you are so edgy
personkid21 (6 months ago)
+gnihton blathering from the Anglo spawn of the world's most accomplished(PROVEN) thieves. A species(anglo) that's stolen lands, cultures, people, etc.(and continues to do so as theft, murder and deviance is it's sole religion). If that's 'chimp logic' I'll subscribe to that over anglo neanderthal logic anytime. The only hope for the planet is complete eradication of these neanderthal beasts.
gnihton (6 months ago)
Chimp logic at its finest, you instantly go to justifying robbery. Your comment is like a parody a racist would write to mock black/Indian/Arab people, only you are actually serious. Good job.
Kirk Wilson (6 months ago)
Native americans are lucky they are still alive, they are worthless leeches on our great country. Why dont you talk about how much a year is spent on them? How much land is wasted on them? Can on TED, show the OTHER SIDE AND NOT BE ALWAYS BIASED.
John Buffalo I am 97 (6 months ago)
+Kirk Wilson this is why the anglos will go extinct like the dodo bird. We made animals extinct and other races, thankfully china with its 1 billion people will dish put karma
W8ting Simulator (6 months ago)
+Kirk Wilson Everything you said didn't justify why Europeans steal their land.
Kirk Wilson (6 months ago)
They couldnt go to any land, we brought horses to the land to help them. To this day they worship a GIFT us Europeans brought here for them. They roamed land, they didnt own any land and since we came here we gave them land and since then they have lived in peace. They were killing each other and cutting off their scalps like the craziest serial killer alive. "natives" are the most brutal and uneducated people ever found around the world while any people explored the earth.
Nick (6 months ago)
Someone needs to read what Christopher Colombus did around the 15th century when he stumbled upon the Americas. Him and the rest Europeans that raped, tortured and killed the N A T I V E S. And you're complaining as if it's them that came in your land.
W8ting Simulator (6 months ago)
To answer your questions. None and none.
Alaska Woolf (6 months ago)
Many sacred objects have been stolen from tribes all around the world, sold by corrupt people or acquired officially through laws that don't recognize, much less respect the rights and wishes of their original and rightful owners. A lot of them have also been vandalized by people with "Artistic Spirit" trying to "Improve" them. What right do you have to take something that belongs to someone else? Even when they are constantly asking you to give it back? You could say "It's just a rock/a pile of bones/ a piece of wood, it's no big deal, get over it", well it may not be important to you but it is to them. What if I took the Mona Lisa to my home and improved it with a moustache? What if someone decided to dig a family member out of their grave without asking your family? What if someone stole your favorite statue from your backyard and hid it in their basement because "It's going to get ruined there"? Wouldn't you be angry and offended? Taking sacred objects away from people is taking away their right to practice their own culture and religion, which are basic human rights, however these tribes are often seen as simply primitive, ignorant and superstitious, so they are not given even minimal human respect and usually have no way of protecting themselves. I don't like religion or superstitions, and I get science is important, but not more than people, they have a right to believe and have their sacred objects with them, denying that from them is disrespectful, abusive and immoral. If you want to see it or study it you can ask for permission, it's not that hard, then this people can say if they'll allow it or not, it's their choice, not anyone else's.
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
I don't even get why conservatives are so butthurt. If museums only preserve and teach about white artifacts, isn't that in everyone's best interest? 🤔
Ike Okereke (6 months ago)
The Mona Lisa is not a sacred object.
Julia Henriques (6 months ago)
In Brazil we had 2 indigenous peoples' museums in Rio de Janeiro. The first one's collection had outgrown it, so the second one was established in a larger facility. The first museum then went into disrepair, and got to the point of being closed for safety reasons. And then something amazing happened. Indigenous people discovered the old abandoned museum and began camping inside the premises when passing through town. When questioned, they just said they were indigenous people taking care of the indigenous people's museum. In their own precarious situation, they breathed new live into the old museum, which quickly became a hub for indigenous populations, activists, athropologists and everything in between. A living thriving polytribe camping community developed. It has workshops, it had classes, it had a bit of social work, it had festivals, it had he tribes speaking for themselves to whoever wanted to learn from the primary source. But when this community applied for official recognition as an institution, a living museum and cultural centre, they were denied. When the academic community of humanities and social sciences vouched for this community, it was ignored. When the Soccer World Cup came and the community was considered too ugly, too ideologically dangerous, too prone to inconvenient protesting, it was removed by force. To this day the old museum remains empty, just a ruin and nothing else. And thus ended the best native american museum experience ever. The end.
copper lapislazuli (6 months ago)
How sad.
Maciek K. Cichoń (6 months ago)
Wow, things people are capable of, well both ways...
pigglet and pooh bear (6 months ago)
We need to stop letting people destroy positive community centers
Lugh Summerson (6 months ago)
Use all the imaging technology you can to make near-perfect computer models which can be studied indefinitely by unlimited numbers of people and can be used as blueprints for identical recreations. Return the original artefacts to the cultures who created them.
Lugh Summerson (6 months ago)
Scrimmy Bingus Yes, it does. We already have the technology to study composition. A digital model could include all measurable data.
Scrimmy Bingus (6 months ago)
still won't account for dating and composition of artefacts.
Kongolox (6 months ago)
James Russell (6 months ago)
Not my philosophy
A Pacing Goose (6 months ago)
At first I thought the thumbnail was a robot hand flipping me off
waelXcm (6 months ago)
btw amazing as usual...
waelXcm (6 months ago)
who else thought that thumbnail was a middle finger ?!
Christopher Alexander (6 months ago)
waelXcm it is
Chris Mason (6 months ago)
I disagree strongly. Museums are the best place for preservation.
Brookes Gafeney (5 months ago)
Honestly think about it tho. This is like me saying "I'll keep your belongings cuz they are safer with me". Key terms are "your belongings". Its still not actually up to me even if im right.
+R N Well yes, of course you will ask the Egyptian government for permission or join an egyptological project (that will also ask the government for permission). How do you think you can get there in the first place ? It's about the authorities, not so much about the people who live there. Also - the Cairo Museum has so many artifacts that just stay in the museum depot. What's the use of having this many artifacts that almost noone will ever see ? Why should we return the objects if it helps spreading knowledge and awareness of this ancient civilisation and the circumstances that may endanger ancient remains ?
ynderulets tyalikanky (6 months ago)
So, do you really think that there is alive direct, DNA-proved descendant of some Ankhesenamun? I don't think so. All humanity have equal right for such ancient things. So better it would be in state that funds archaelogists and museums.
R N (6 months ago)
No you don't seem to understand that the descends of Ancient Egyptians are very much alive and they have asked for their stuff back. England and other countries know that those artifacts were obtained by violent and dishonest means and they don't care. If you really think it's okay to steal and kill for artifacts then you most definitely are morally bankrupt. I can't explain morality to a soulless person and I can't explain facts to a stupid person so you need to become educated or seek psychological help.
ynderulets tyalikanky (6 months ago)
How rude. Not troll, just have different view on inheritance. Good luck with your study.
xxx xxx (6 months ago)
So they would be destroyed because of lack of care of proper infrastructure and funding by barbarians that receive them.
hugo z hackenbush (6 months ago)
Where does it end though
Zhu Bajie (6 months ago)
an anti-science diatribe.
Jervis lin (6 months ago)
I personally think he returned the "being" So he can keep the maintenance fee to himself. #Capitalism
Jervis lin (6 months ago)
Nancy Wagoner I see ur point but i never say they wanted the fee. Here a scenario of what I think what actually happen. Let say the person stole the item doesn't vale it anyone. Do you think he or she will continue to spent money maintaining it, no right he or she will most likely dispose it. Therefore disposing mean returning that item back.
Nancy Wagoner (6 months ago)
Why should indigenous peoples have to repay preservation costs for items that were stolen? If someone stole your car, and the thief spent a lot money to preserve your car, would you repay his costs to get your stolen car back?
WilliamBaratheon (6 months ago)
Is Egypt also demanding the Obelisks in Rome taken in antiquity?
To shove them in an overly stuffed museum depot...
You're Guy ... I encourage tour fight .
IRON60 BITCH (6 months ago)
It sounds like cultures want to separate from populations they don’t want to share any of their history because they believe the people who possess it don’t deserve it maybe it’s true but how does that promote the human race
+Laowyn And how do you thing the general public will view the museums if they display mainly copies ?
Laowyn (5 months ago)
+Христо Мартунков, граф Лозенски It shouldn't be. If you want to see the ORIGINAL piece, then you should go to the place where it belongs. Otherwise, just go see a copy in the nearest museum or Google a picture of it.
+Laowyn "Tourists can visit". Yeah, go book a vacation in China/India just to see a statuette. It's just so easy and so cheap, right ?
Laowyn (6 months ago)
I think the point is returning objects so they can be displayed in museum from the countries thay come from. This way tourists can visit them while enjoying the cultural aspects of the country too.
IRON60 BITCH (6 months ago)
Humans land space ships on Mars and you’re talking about a stone ax. a painting I respect the past but the future is so much more relevant
+IRON60 BITCH "Parts from all." Bits and pieces, yeah... Sounds so random. But even in this cas, you still anknowledge that the past is somewhat important.
IRON60 BITCH (5 months ago)
Христо Мартунков, граф Лозенски true Parts from all will be used
What are you going to build the future on then ? If not on the past and present ?
blise518B (6 months ago)
Religions are a thing of the past and should be gradually removed from cultures over time so they can act logically and ultimately make the world a better place for everyone.
Batra Chian (6 months ago)
+DeoMachina Not smoking doesn't guarantee a lack of lung cancer, nor does smoking guarantee it.
DeoMachina (6 months ago)
Secularism doesn't guarantee logical thinking, nor does faith totally obscure it.
Different (6 months ago)
but that doesn't mean we need to erase it from history, there are believes and then there is art
DeoMachina (6 months ago)
I'm simply amazed people find the concept of returning looted artefacts offensive. Conservatism is a T R I P
Nietzsche's Moustache (5 months ago)
+DeoMachina The problem is that many of these "cultures" can't or won't preserve these artifacts. The statues & artifacts that were left behind in the Middle East were intentionally destroyed by ISIS when they came to power. Have you ever read about the Bonfire of the Vanities? Religious morons love to destroy history.
Nietzsche's Moustache (5 months ago)
+blue_tetris Lol. "It's an American thing" That's cute. No, it's a _European_ thing. Britain, in particular, is famous for collecting s**t from throughout the Empire.
Nietzsche's Moustache (5 months ago)
It's about keeping them safe. A lot of the places these artifacts were found don't have the technology to preserve them. Also, groups like ISIS intentionally destroy priceless historical artifacts.
Draco B (6 months ago)
It depends. Return something to Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia. Watch as they destroy it.
Herr Schmidt (6 months ago)
There are clear situation but then there are also situations like in Syria or Iraq, where giving them back would have destroyed them, for the ancestors of the creators as well as mankind. In the case of natives, there is the question whether there would be the option of exhibiting and conserve them - what is worse, keeping them from direct access of the culture they belong to or keep them for coming generations. The sad truth is that a lot of those artifacts only remain because they were stolen. There is just a huge grey area and the decision has to be made from case to case.
mhtinla (6 months ago)
Returning museum pieces on demand of tribes is understandable. Proactively returning pieces to tribes that may not care anymore is something else.
SilverFox (6 months ago)
ok, let`s say they want to get their cultural objective back for their own reasons, then pay back the money invested to find that object, i mean, that is fair. Let`s see how many will pay for them then.
Chi Chiu (5 months ago)
u mean pay for something that was stolen bullshit
Michael Park (6 months ago)
Most of these artifacts were found by individuals or funded by colleges or other organizations not government funding and since many of them are donated why should they pay them if they themselves got it for free
Brenda Rua (6 months ago)
Interesting idea.
איתי אפלבאום (6 months ago)
Can't you make wargod replicas? Both sides win.
akram4179 (6 months ago)
+daddyleon Unfortunately the museums that hold these artifacts would disagree. And since they are from western countries, no one will force them to give up their possession.
daddyleon (6 months ago)
*+akram4179* the 'tribe' from whom it was stolen.
akram4179 (6 months ago)
Who gets the original?
daddyleon (6 months ago)
Of course you can, but the silly people who like originals will say only the originals are worth millions of dollars while the replicas are next to worthless.
Yehuda Moshe Ftaya (6 months ago)
The Jewish brain strikes again...:)
Hopi Ng (6 months ago)
Take care of people as much as you take care of objects. World would be a better place.
feezkoh (6 months ago)
This is not thought provoking, it's obvious,
Bob Miller (6 months ago)
Well, what's obvious to you or me might be outrageous to other folks. I remember a few years ago in my neck of the woods, some local university had uncovered an 8,000 year old Native American skull, and the local tribe instantly demanded that it be given back. "Let someone at least take a fucking DNA sample from the thing before we bury it back in the Earth forever," I thought. Which the university did in the end, but not before being sued by the tribe, who won their case and eventually got the skull back. Frankly, if you could have somehow described to the neolithic man that the skull belonged to that his existence and his bloodline would be remembered for all time to come by both his descendants and everyone else in the world, my guess is that he would have been pretty fucking thrilled by that prospect. Most indigenous peoples in history practiced one form or another of ancestor worship, and what's more "ancestor worshipy" than have a high-resolution DNA sample with a hard timestamp that will never be forgotten as long as humanity continues to exists?
Jared Knight (6 months ago)
Not for some of the idiots in this comment section, clearly.
Sailen Katel (6 months ago)
Utter nonsense. A thing is a thing, not a being.
Brian Kagimu (6 months ago)
Before i watched this talk, i hadn't recognized how much important work archaeologists and museums do play in our world.
Shahram Nikbakhsh (6 months ago)
Brian Kagimu They stole all heritage of third world countries
rawrimbord (6 months ago)
Stolen culture is only a problem when you’re white, but when it comes to any other race it is ignored lmfaooo
W8ting Simulator (6 months ago)
+Violet Fyxe Lol you are a troll.
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
+Sim W8ing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Fu Where do you think Yamato Japanese originated?
W8ting Simulator (6 months ago)
+Violet Fyxe Man I read the link and it has nothing to do with China, that's Japanese killing local minorities. How did you find china in this "Japanese colonization of Hokkaido" story?
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
+Sim W8ing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people#Meiji_Restoration_and_later https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history#Japanese_colonization_of_Hokkaido At the beginning of Sakoku (xenophobic isolationism), the were 80,000 Ainu. When it ended, there were 17,000. According to Japanese records, they all died of smallpox when the rest of the world wasn't watching.
Gitanjali Rachakonda (6 months ago)
Yall can't even preserve your own culture while all of us can do it despite all the white people ruling us for YEARS?
Foofoo Lee (6 months ago)
What is a curator to do? Their job.
iced coffee noctule (6 months ago)
lustwaffe9000 (6 months ago)
This guy’s delivery of speech is so overly dramatic, its almost cringe-worthy.
Christopher Fairfield (6 months ago)
SJW, COMMUNIST BULLSHIT.................. Former Yugoslavia would like their country and culture back.......WHEN YOU LOSE IT AINT YOUR'S ANY MORE....IF YOU FIND IT........ ITS YOURS...........IF I FIND A HUNDRED DOLLARS.......THEN SOME ONE CLAIMS THEY LEFT IT THEIR............DO I GIVE IT BACK TO THEM??????? OR DO I PUT IT IN MY POCKET?
mhtinla (6 months ago)
Next: Native Americans want America back.
Kari The Light (4 months ago)
mhtinla and they rightfully deserve it. They got slaughtered and robbed of their land. Most of them until this day have no place to live. It’s sad that people have to go through that.
Weltfenos (4 months ago)
Did you hurt your back from leaping so far in conclusions?
Nietzsche's Moustache (5 months ago)
After that: The earlier Native Americans want America back from last week's Native Americans who took it from _them._
Scrimmy Bingus (6 months ago)
We just stole the whole world from the australopithicans and Neanderthals we should give it back to them.
amrfts (6 months ago)
dude, I usually don bother with YT comments but this one is so stupid I have to waste time taking it apart. First of your use of the word lebensraum is both concerning and amusing in equal measure the fact you have found a way to compare Native Americans to Nazi's defies logic and leads me to suspect that you are a troll. Not all native Americans were nomadic some of them did have land and the USA did sign treaties saying they would not encroach on said land any further, frankly Im not sure why the native Americans held any faith in said treaties after they were routinely dishonoured. You see seem to be referring to the Dakota access protests, bear in mind that said pipeline is a threat to the regions water supply and burial grounds, so yeah if an organisation starts construction in your area which might mean that the water won't be safe to drink and your relatives graves will be disturbed you have a right to try and stop that. Also you seem to condone the use of tear gas on these people, I know there is a more eloquent way to say this but your comment is a perfect example of the kind of stage four inoperable cancer that pervades YT comment sections.
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Shirish Shukla (6 months ago)
When will Indians get back their kohinoor diamond that was once the crown jewel of Maharaja Ranjeet Singh
ynderulets tyalikanky (6 months ago)
These people died ages ago. Indians aren't that people who were exploited. However, i would hire some hobbits to throw it back into some kimberlite volcanic tube. Diamonds are overrated.
Shirish Shukla (6 months ago)
+Dack Hacksaw they brought railway for efficient extraction of raw materials ,for their own benefit
Vinay N.K (6 months ago)
We do not want it back. It should be with the British to remind them (and us) of their (and our) evil history
Shirish Shukla (6 months ago)
+Dack Hacksaw then what were the britishers doing for 150 years in the land of 75% open defecators ??? They were there to clean it probably 😂😂😂😂
Captain Hook (6 months ago)
Dack Hacksaw you dumb
American troll girl girl (6 months ago)
An inanimate object is not a Being.
mhtinla (6 months ago)
Apparently their War Gods failed them.
Violet Fyxe (6 months ago)
It's almost as though gods are created by primitive cultures to explain what they don't understand.
Sane Afrikan (6 months ago)
mhtinla lol
Phillip James Clearman (6 months ago)
Because of SJW politics that everything is offensive, possessing objects that we use to study a culture is offensive and “appropriating culture.” And cowtowing to people who don’t even use museums
Bob Miller (6 months ago)
"cowtowing to people who don’t even use museums" Hey fuckboy, your swastika is showing :/
drobvensick (6 months ago)
Ok I get what you are saying. But are you ok if The Decleration of Indepence is stolen and is stored in a museum in a foreign country like China and Russia? After all its just an old parchment with a lot of copies of it. And besides they can take better care of it just like in the USA.
Dimetropteryx (6 months ago)
You don't need to indefinitely possess the objects to study the culture. And I absolutely guarantee that you have never in your redneck life set foot in a museum.
S T (6 months ago)
How about the fact they are safer in museums abroad than being destroyed by fanatics in their native lands? Yes, I'm talking about ISIS for one.
Re Up (2 months ago)
@ynderulets tyalikanky Literally all Semites of that region are related. So even if you tried to pull that BS stance where you claim modern Arabs aren't related to their pre-Arab predecessors, you'd be grossly wrong. When the Arabs expanded north, the prior population of millions didn't just disappear and get replaced by a few thousand. They intermarried and adopted a new culture (just as they had done with Roman, Greek, Persian and Assyrian before). Even Prophet Muhammad's grandsons married non-Arabs. The people there today are the descendants of those before them. Even those Arabs who migrated north, had originally come from the north and migrated south. There's two types of Arabs: Adnanite and Qahtanite. The latter are the racial Arabs native to Yemen, the former are cultural Arabs descended from Adnan who descended from Ishmael who descended from Abraham. Even during the Roman Empire the Ghassanid Arab dynasty ruled southern Syria and Jordan, and the Lakhmid Arab dynasty ruled Iraq under the Persian Empire. But all the peoples from there intermixed over the ages. There's a reason why Arabs in Sudan and Chad are black, it's because they are related to their predecessors, and the same is true for the brown Arabs who are related to their Semitic, Hellenic, Berber and Iranic predecessors of the region they live in.
ynderulets tyalikanky (6 months ago)
some arabs have no relation to treasures they broken
TheSaltyRainbow (6 months ago)
??? got more info on that?
TheSaltyRainbow (6 months ago)
No ISIS in Greece...yet. Greece always seems to be on the edge.
Michael Park (6 months ago)
Japan holds many of Koreas ancient artifacts when they colonized them. Those should be returned and also not every place they are returning the artifacts to is in danger of terrorist attacks
Tagore with Lyric (6 months ago)
here under 50
Kyota Tsushima (6 months ago)
Vexo ...
Kelzo Laitaoui (6 months ago)
Here before 100
exit 1Ø1 (6 months ago)
because apart from nobody knowing who _wilder_ is, they sure af dont know what _fury_ means when he keeps saying "lineal champion" you bunch of dossers.
Nehemiah Roy (6 months ago)
nice 😊☺
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